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Post  karl_b on Thu 11 Oct 2018, 18:30

BH:2045 is one of my favourite games; for those that don't know it, it's set in the year 2045, after Baseball had fallen behind American Football in popularity. In an attempt to make it more popular, augmented humans and robots were introduced to the game, to make it more exciting.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/151022/baseball-highlights-2045

It's essentially a deck-builder, you start with a basic squad of 15 rookies and veterans, compete in series against other teams and draft free agents to improve your squad (always with a max of 15 players). I love it and I've thought for a while about turning it in to a larger tournament at the club, not on the scale of Paul's Star Realms tournaments and in physical form not digital.

The usual 4-player variant is to run a league based on 3 game series and then have playoffs to determine the winner of the World Series. I don't have a set idea for how I'd run this but I've added a lot of expansions so have 8 starting teams and a shedload of free agents.

Some thoughts:
- I was thinking of an 8 team tournament or two sets of 4 with inter-division playoffs but open to more players and discussion on the format.
- I assume this will take at least 2 nights to complete but could be a longer Friday night / weekend session.
- We could introduce a way of keeping free agents between games/sessions.

I know Tom also owns a copy of this so perhaps we could look to combine sets to facilitate more players?

Anyway, before I get too far ahead of myself it'd be good to know if anyone is interested and any thoughts on format, etc. Not in a huge rush to set something up so happy to think a few weeks or more ahead.

Any takers?

Interested:
1. Karl
2. Liz
3. Ian
4. Dave B
5. Kes
6. Pauly G
7. Tom
8. Mike G


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Post  Lizzy on Thu 11 Oct 2018, 18:34

Me!
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Post  Ianm on Thu 11 Oct 2018, 19:05

Yes please I will give it a go
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Post  DaveB on Thu 11 Oct 2018, 19:36

Count me as definitely interested!
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Post  Kes on Fri 12 Oct 2018, 09:15

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Post  karl_b on Fri 12 Oct 2018, 11:32

Excellent! I'll assume Pauly G will be in too.
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Post  BeardyTom on Fri 12 Oct 2018, 12:25

I'd like to take part. And of course I'm happy to put my copy in the mix if needed.
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Post  karl_b on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 07:48

Any more takers?
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Post  Kes on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 09:40

Maybe intro some people with standard games. Looks like we could really use one more
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Post  paulyg on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 09:46

Yes, I am in!
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Post  karl_b on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 11:31

8 would be ideal as I think I could make it work with my 8 starter decks and the massive free agent deck I now have. Assuming we get 8 I propose we set aside a Tuesday session for me to run 'pre season friendlies' as an introduction/ refresher course.

For ease, I propose 2 divisions of 4 players, with a single 3-series match against each team in the division. This should be doable in a single night per division.

We then have 2 options, either 1 vs 1, 2 Vs 2, etc. from each division play off to determine the final order (probably take 2 sessions) or we get in to a seeded playoff knock out tournament. I'm tempted to go for the latter.

I think 4 sessions should do it (max). If we can agree on a format then I'll create a doodle poll for the first sessions and make the draw for the group stages.
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Post  paulyg on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 11:51

karl_b wrote:8 would be ideal as I think I could make it work with my 8 starter decks and the massive free agent deck I now have. Assuming we get 8 I propose we set aside a Tuesday session for me to run 'pre season friendlies' as an introduction/ refresher course.

For ease, I propose 2 divisions of 4 players, with a single 3-series match against each team in the division. This should be doable in a single night per division.

We then have 2 options, either 1 vs 1, 2 Vs 2, etc. from each division play off to determine the final order (probably take 2 sessions) or we get in to a seeded playoff knock out tournament. I'm tempted to go for the latter.

I think 4 sessions should do it (max). If we can agree on a format then I'll create a doodle poll for the first sessions and make the draw for the group stages.
Sounds great to me! If you want to make things really complicated then you could use the format that some fighting game tournaments use for the knockout stage. Do it seeded and double-elimination, but with the bottom half of the divisions going straight into the losers' bracket (so it's single elimination for them). Everyone gets to play in the knock-out, but there's more emphasis on finishing well in the divisional part of the tournament. Or am I over-complicating things?
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Post  Kes on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 12:06

Well I don’t mind how complicated it gets as long as I don’t have to plan it.
Would we keep the same teams throughout?
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Post  karl_b on Tue 23 Oct 2018, 13:03

paulyg wrote:
Sounds great to me! If you want to make things really complicated then you could use the format that some fighting game tournaments use for the knockout stage. Do it seeded and double-elimination, but with the bottom half of the divisions going straight into the losers' bracket (so it's single elimination for them). Everyone gets to play in the knock-out, but there's more emphasis on finishing well in the divisional part of the tournament. Or am I over-complicating things?

I think I understand - sounds like a hybrid of the two options I suggested. Perhaps we can discuss it later?

Kes wrote:Would we keep the same teams throughout?

That's the plan and it's certainly doable with the number of cards I now have.

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Post  Mike4000 on Thu 25 Oct 2018, 20:01

I’d be up for this. Whilst I’ve not been to a Tuesday for a while I’m okay heading into the end of the year. Longer one time session would also work.

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Post  karl_b on Fri 26 Oct 2018, 14:12

Mike4000 wrote:I’d be up for this. Whilst I’ve not been to a Tuesday for a while I’m okay heading into the end of the year. Longer one time session would also work.

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You're in!

So we have 8. I'll have a think about the format over the weekend but, now that Paul has explained the double elimination thing to me in more detail, we'll go with something more straightforward this time.

I'm currently pretty free in November, shall I make a draw for the 2 divisions and then people can let me know when they're available?
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Post  DaveB on Fri 26 Oct 2018, 14:14

Sounds good Smile
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Post  karl_b on Sat 24 Nov 2018, 14:26

Sorry guys, haven't forgotten just haven't had much time to think about it. Shall we try and start this in the new year?
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Post  Mike4000 on Sat 24 Nov 2018, 14:28

Sounds good.

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Post  Ianm on Tue 27 Nov 2018, 12:29

Cool for me.
Perhaps a Sunday red dear session could also be an option for a tournament day
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Post  DaveB on Tue 27 Nov 2018, 12:35

Can’t often make Sundays, but if the date is decided with enough notice I might be able to do it!
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Post  karl_b on Mon 21 Jan 2019, 13:29

Right, let's do this. I've done a random draw to determine starting teams, conference sorted by Sheffield geography (ish):

Southern Conference:
Karl - Seattle
Pauly G - Los Angeles
Kes - United Kingdom
Ian - New York

Northern Conference:
Liz - San Fransisco
Tom C - Boston
Dave B - Canada
Mike G - Carribbean Basin

Two evenings required for the league before we move to playoffs, so let's agree some dates. We'll play the two conferences over two weeks, I've added a poll to the top of page so you can vote for your availability (multiple choice) and I'll coordinate.

I propose we then have two (possibly three) evenings of playoffs, with the bottom two from each division facing off one week and the top two from each a following week to determine the overall rankings and winner. Dates TBC upon completion of the first round of conferences.

I will explain the detailed rules on the night/s, but a quick summary (any comments?):

Conferences

  • Two league system, five game series against each opponent in your conference
  • Conference rank based on winning percentage
  • Ties split by runs scored
  • Teams will be able to draft players between games in each series from the free agent deck
  • Drafted players remain with the team throughout the tournament


Playoffs

  • Two playoff series - bottom and top two from each conference
  • Three games series against each opponent to determine rank
  • Conference rank based on winning percentage
  • Ties split by runs scored
  • Only one draft round, at the end of each series
  • Final playoffs will then be 1 vs 4 (Game A) and 2 v 3 (Game B) in a five games series.
  • The winner of games A and B will then play a seven games series to determine final ranking and the winner of the World Series.


PRE-SEASON FRIENDLIES ON THE 5TH FEB. Or ask me for games another week, always happy to play.

How does this all sound?


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Post  Kes on Mon 21 Jan 2019, 13:38

Sounds fine to me
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Post  DaveB on Mon 21 Jan 2019, 13:40

Is there going to be a "friendly" session before we start to get a handle on the rules? I've never played before... and based on your description I know less about the rules of baseball than I thought Very Happy

Also, if I play Canada does that mean I have to apologise every time I hit the ball? And say "aboot"?

EDIT: Of the dates quoted I can only do Feb 5th so I've voted for that, if that's no good for others I don't mind stepping aside, and trying again next time!
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Post  karl_b on Mon 21 Jan 2019, 13:48

Dave - yes, we can run a "friendly" session, good idea.

Let's do that 5th Feb and I can add in more dates for the conferences if needed. When are you available?
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