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Post  Aneurin on Tue 26 Jan 2016, 13:25

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Post  Scott_Fryer on Tue 26 Jan 2016, 14:27

I think its likely a combination of all 3, its a terrible kickstarter page, and a minimum pledge level of £100, I'll be surprised if he gets any backers...

If you check out his website link, thats another "interesting" site...
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Post  Andy S on Tue 26 Jan 2016, 15:47

Quote from the pitch:

It's Strengths
*It's fun *
*It's innovative *
*It's competitive *

Nevermind the fact that the first "It's" has a superfluous apostrophe (I'll try to keep my inner pedant in check), I love how this suggests that other games do not include, or at the very least strive to include 1. fun, 2. innovation, 3. some level of competition or goal - which are surely the absolute minimum of what every game design has in mind.

I reckon he's an avant garde internet-only comedian.
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Post  PaulC on Tue 26 Jan 2016, 16:09

Scott wrote:I think its likely a combination of all 3, its a terrible kickstarter page, and a minimum pledge level of £100, I'll be surprised if he gets any backers...

If you check out his website link, thats another "interesting" site...

After 10 minutes of internet sleuthing, I'm going to say naive. Seems like a harmless bloke, but a bit of a dreamer. I suspect this is the latest in a long line of millionaire-making ideas.

I hope he comes to the Expo!
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Post  Scott_Fryer on Tue 26 Jan 2016, 16:43

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Post  Aneurin on Tue 26 Jan 2016, 16:57

The fact that the only other game he mentions is Monopoly... I'm guessing he hasn't got the slightest idea that euro games etc are popular again...
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Post  RikTheChief on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 18:29

"the first thing I did was check out all board games,"

Didn't look very far did he?
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Post  karl_b on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 20:37

Tempted to back my first Kickstarter here.
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Post  PaulC on Wed 27 Jan 2016, 20:45

I contacted the guy requesting a copy of the rules and asking about the final design. He responded, saying that there were no further rules than those on the Kickstarter page but he will edit them into alphabetical order to make it more clear!?
Regarding the design, he says it's just a mock up, he's expecting to attract a big production company who will have their Art Department take care of the design. He's also going to pitch it on Shark Tank (the US version of Dragons' Den)! Which begs the question, why is he on Kickstarter?

I think he genuinely thinks he's on to a winner. I don't have the heart to give him my honest feedback...
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Post  Ste on Mon 01 Feb 2016, 22:43

He's had abit of a rant in the comments. I might just back it and tell him it's brilliant.
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Post  Aneurin on Tue 02 Feb 2016, 10:14

He is seriously on a different planet... do you think he has even looked at the other kickstarters under tabletop games?
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Post  PaulC on Tue 02 Feb 2016, 10:54

Aneurin wrote:He is seriously on a different planet... do you think he has even looked at the other kickstarters under tabletop games?
I'm certain he hasn't. His experience of games seems to stretch as far as Monopoly and Ludo. He doesn't even seen to understand how Kickstarter works. 
I've sent him a very long and hopefully constructive email suggesting why he has attracted no bids. I've also sought to enlighten him regarding modern boardgaming and pointed him towards bgg and the expo for research and playtesting opportunities. Perhaps he'll come visit us one Tuesday to let us playtest.  Smile
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Post  Aneurin on Tue 02 Feb 2016, 10:57

Imagine the stories we would get...

Playing Catan is a little like living in Wales...
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Post  Aneurin on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 08:17

PaulC wrote:
Aneurin wrote:He is seriously on a different planet... do you think he has even looked at the other kickstarters under tabletop games?
I'm certain he hasn't. His experience of games seems to stretch as far as Monopoly and Ludo. He doesn't even seen to understand how Kickstarter works. 
I've sent him a very long and hopefully constructive email suggesting why he has attracted no bids. I've also sought to enlighten him regarding modern boardgaming and pointed him towards bgg and the expo for research and playtesting opportunities. Perhaps he'll come visit us one Tuesday to let us playtest.  Smile

Did he reply?
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Post  PaulC on Thu 04 Feb 2016, 09:09

Aneurin wrote:Did he reply?
He sent me a very polite reply, thanking be for my input, acknowledging that he was a little green, and then began telling me he had written 2 novels and the hardest part was the back  cover blurb and that card games like Bridge were popular but Snap was more fun. 

I think he's a genuinely nice guy, but I wouldn't give him my money!
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Post  Jamie on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 11:33

For the £4,965 pledge level you only get gold plated player tokens?! Not solid gold 3 inch high player tokens? Shocked
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Post  psychomansam on Fri 05 Feb 2016, 13:19

PaulC wrote:
Aneurin wrote:Did he reply?
He sent me a very polite reply, thanking be for my input, acknowledging that he was a little green, and then began telling me he had written 2 novels and the hardest part was the back  cover blurb and that card games like Bridge were popular but Snap was more fun. 

I think he's a genuinely nice guy, but I wouldn't give him my money!

lol!
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Post  PaulC on Wed 10 Feb 2016, 15:08

He seems to have listened to some of the feedback and he has changed his video. No longer is it a 10 minute life story but you now actually get to see the game and how to play it.


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Post  PaulC on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 08:49

Mal is BACK!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/135446174/drive-u-crazee-the-game-that-brings-people-togethe?ref=nav_search

It looks like he's listened to some of the advice he received from the community - he's reduced the pledge levels and appears to be planning on attending the Expo. However, his video has reverted to a familiar 10 minute monologue followed by a bizarre explanation of the game.

I really hope he makes it to the Expo - I'd love to meet him!
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Post  Andy S on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 13:38

PaulC wrote:Mal is BACK!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/135446174/drive-u-crazee-the-game-that-brings-people-togethe?ref=nav_search

It looks like he's listened to some of the advice he received from the community - he's reduced the pledge levels and appears to be planning on attending the Expo. However, his video has reverted to a familiar 10 minute monologue followed by a bizarre explanation of the game.

I really hope he makes it to the Expo - I'd love to meet him!

I wonder if he'll apply for the Wyvern's Lair.
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Post  Kes on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 14:26

The demo at the end is hilarious.
Also "Tell me a game that a 5 year old has as much chance of winning as his parents". Who wants to start?
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Post  Ste on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 14:35

Well that's 12 minutes and 24 seconds of my life I'll never get back. Luckily I'm at work. I feel a bit sorry for this guy, I can't imagine him doing very well at the expo with what is essentially a roll and move game. The walkthru section was extremely confusing too. It seemed to me that players could potentially be going around and around in circles forever until they got the right card that turned them the correct way. No wonder his grandkids just want to play on their phones.
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Post  Ste on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 14:36

Kes wrote:The demo at the end is hilarious.
Also "Tell me a game that a 5 year old has as much chance of winning as his parents". Who wants to start?

Snakes and Ladders!
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Post  PaulC on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 14:49

Ste - Blinky wrote:No wonder his grandkids just want to play on their phones.

Harsh! Hilarious and probably true, but harsh! Smile
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Post  Aneurin on Wed 02 Mar 2016, 15:00

PaulC wrote:
Ste - Blinky wrote:No wonder his grandkids just want to play on their phones.

Harsh! Hilarious and probably true, but harsh! Smile

I can imagine them rolling their eyes as Granddad starts on another one of his stories!
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